tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post653318109380267971..comments2024-03-15T10:36:55.634+02:00Comments on Bat Aliyah: The Invisible Jewish WomanUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-14388027156258966762011-10-18T08:39:18.710+02:002011-10-18T08:39:18.710+02:00I think this is a great post. You clearly showed s...I think this is a great post. You clearly showed significant examples of the visual marginalization of women. Thank you for highlighting this issue!<br /><br />I think it's important to note the hypocrisy of the idea of women being hidden to avoid distracting men. If we're going off of that justification, we are saying that women walking around outside can ONLY be related to in a sexual dimension, and therefore must be removed from view of the men. This removes the possibility of women being powerful subjects in the world. On the flip side, this also the possibility of men ever being sexual objects. Do not women gaze as well? Why are men's faces standard and not distracting? Why must they always be the ones doing and watching, while women are silent and obscured?<br /><br />This is an issue of feminism in the Jewish world, but it also speaks to larger issues that are constantly being grappled with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-33535924879568913412011-10-16T08:00:26.326+02:002011-10-16T08:00:26.326+02:00Rivkah, this article needs to be written because i...Rivkah, this article needs to be written because it is really getting out of hand, even in Wilmington, NY recently there were sign's put up in Yiddish which stated"if a man is walking toward a woman on the side walk (she) is to step aside.Then there is Jewish women dressing like the Taliban in Jerusalem, Yes, men should be protected against the possibility of arousal. However, Men should be men too for their women. Women need them to be gentlemen, strong, brave with self control. Defending us and protecting us not demeaning and lessening our existence, acting weak and vulnerable to the very appearance of a woman. If their minds are on G-d, as they should be, then when they see other Frum women then they should look at them as a mother, sister, aunt ect... not as an object. So yes Rivkah do post about Meshugana every time you see it then many eventually the light will turn on and other wont follow crazy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-37957417008134190862011-10-16T00:06:17.848+02:002011-10-16T00:06:17.848+02:00I second Yonatan.
I think it's a 'natura...I second Yonatan. <br /><br />I think it's a 'natural' reaction to the provocative mass media and the weaker generation. "Better safe than sorry." So many homes are getting broken up because the men cannot control themselves. The internet just reinforces the ease we can get our fix for visual stimulation, and yes, many billboards and newspaper ads are simply not modest.<br /><br />I don't think the point is to repress women, but more as a desperate measure to protect the men.<br /><br />Do I agree and try to justify, no. But it just goes along with the trend of 'ultra-modest' Taliban cult.joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-55488679208889224902011-10-15T22:54:50.746+02:002011-10-15T22:54:50.746+02:00I don't think of the chareidim the epitome of ...I don't think of the chareidim the epitome of Judaism. They imitate other religions. Don't take them so seriously.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-69010480738291946742011-10-15T21:16:31.113+02:002011-10-15T21:16:31.113+02:00Yonatan - If this trend was limited to a fringe gr...Yonatan - If this trend was limited to a fringe group in Mea She'arim, I would not have written as I did. This increasingly pervasive trend is not limited to sikrikim. Sadly, the tendency to erase women from the public domain exists in many other Jewish communities, not just in Mea She'arim and not even just in Israel. <br /><br />I gave 8 examples (and I could have given more), some of which are not even specific to Israel. <br /><br />The vast majority of my blog posts are about how amazing life in Israel is. This trend of disappearing women from the public eye is troubling exactly because it compromises the holiness of Jewish life - both here and in chutz l'aretz.Bat Aliyahhttp://bataliyah.blogpot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-41640771598825126872011-10-15T19:58:09.835+02:002011-10-15T19:58:09.835+02:00Oh, come on. There is a portion of this population...Oh, come on. There is a portion of this population that pushes this agenda, just as it does with not working or serving in the IDF. They're all wrong, it doesn't rise to the level that you write about in you post though. Do you live in Mea sharim? If so, perhaps you should be looking for another neighborhood, if not, posting that its like this in all Israel makes others who are not here feel like this may be the truth - and its not.Yonatannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-35189612315062086032011-10-15T18:29:45.725+02:002011-10-15T18:29:45.725+02:00Great post Rivka. Whilst we may not be seen, we a...Great post Rivka. Whilst we may not be seen, we are heard, by the thousands who read our blogs.<br /><br />They [men] are so threatened by us they try to make us disappear altogether.<br /><br />Before Moshiach, women will be superior to men.<br /><br />And so it is.Devorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7976081.post-23431446622877862722011-10-14T15:23:22.445+02:002011-10-14T15:23:22.445+02:00Just this morning I was looking at the flags for s...Just this morning I was looking at the flags for simchat torah which were being sold in a regular toy store in downtown Rehovot. All of them had just little boys on them. I would have bought one for my granddaughter who was visiting me, but didn't because it made me feel bad.Risa Tzoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05012097234847651866noreply@blogger.com